This is for you Blue. It is a lazy cat! lol
Hope the link works
http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w191/rockcrawler304/Lazy_cat_ra ...

Thanks Rock...but ways he lazy? Is this your cat?

Not my cat. Just e-mailed to me. It is lazy cuz it should go kill that little rat! LOL It looks like "Hey rat, aw never mind. Go a head"
Actually looks like they are both pets. But still..... :)
I thought it looked funny and knew you had to see it.

Is it suppose to be animated? LOL I just see a cute little red cat but no rat.

Ha! I found it that is CUTE! Thx Rock. :-)
http://digg.com/lbv.php?id=16912540&ord=1

Damn. The link works for me. Oh well. Glad you found it! I guess you were thinking WTF rock???? LOL

LOL Yep I was... but you made me smile anyway. ;-)

*ONLY A MAN WOULD ATTEMPT THIS*
*Just try reading this without laughing till you cry!!!*

Pocket Taser Stun Gun, a great gift for the wife. A guy who purchased his lovely wife a pocket Taser for their anniversary submitted this:
Last weekend I saw something at Larry's Pistol & Pawn Shop that sparked my interest. The occasion was our 15th anniversary and I was looking for a little something extra for my wife Julie. What I came across was a 100,000-volt, pocket/purse-sized taser. The effects of the taser were supposed to be short lived, with no long-term adverse affect on your assailant, allowing her adequate time to retreat to safety....??
WAY TOO COOL! Long story short, I bought the device and brought it home. I loaded two AAA batteries in the darn thing and pushed the button.
Nothing! I was disappointed. I learned, however, that if I pushed the button AND pressed it against a metal surface at the same time; I'd get the blue arc of electricity darting back and forth between the prongs. AWESOME!!!
Unfortunately, I have yet to explain to Julie what that burn spot is on the face of her microwave.
Okay, so I was home alone with this new toy, thinking to myself that it couldn't be all that bad with only two triple-A batteries, right?
There I sat in my recliner, my cat Gracie looking on intently (trusting little soul) while I was reading the directions and thinking that I really needed to try this thing out on a flesh & blood moving target. I must admit I thought about zapping Gracie (for a fraction of a second) and thought better of it. She is such a sweet cat. But, if I was going to give this thing to my wife to protect herself against a mugger, I did want some assurance that it would work as advertised. Am I wrong?
So, there I sat in a pair of shorts and a tank top with my reading glasses perched delicately on the bridge of my nose, directions in one hand, and taser in another. The directions said that a one-second burst would shock and disorient your assailant; a two-second burst was supposed to cause muscle spasms and a major loss of bodily control; a three-second burst would purportedly make your assailant flop on the ground like a fish out of water.
Any burst longer than three seconds would be wasting the batteries.
All the while I'm looking at this little device measuring about 5'long, less than 3/4 inch in circumference; pretty cute really and (loaded with two itsy, bitsy triple-A batteries) thinking to myself, 'no possible way!'
What happened next is almost beyond description, but I'll do my best...?
I'm sitting there alone, Gracie looking on with her head cocked to one side as to say, 'don't do it dipshit,' reasoning that a one second burst from such a tiny little ole thing couldn't hurt all that bad. I decided to give myself a one second burst just for heck of it. I touched the prongs to my naked thigh, pushed the button, and . . *HOLY MOTHER OF GOD . . WEAPONS
OF MASS DESTRUCTION . . . WHAT THE HELL!!!
*
I'm pretty sure Jessie Ventura ran in through the side door, picked me up in the recliner, then body slammed us both on the carpet, over and over and over again. I vaguely recall waking up on my side in the fetal position, with tears in my eyes, body soaking wet, both nipples on fire, testicles nowhere to be found, with my left arm tucked under my body in the oddest position, and tingling in my legs? The cat was making meowing sounds I had never heard before, clinging to a picture frame hanging above the fireplace,obviously in an attempt to avoid getting slammed by my body flopping all over the living room.
Note: If you ever feel compelled to 'mug' yourself with a taser, one note of caution: there is no such thing as a one second burst when you zap yourself!
You will not let go of that thing until it is dislodged from your hand by a violent thrashing about on the floor.. A three second burst would be considered conservative?
*IT HURT LIKE HELL!!!*
A minute or so later (I can't be sure, as time was a relative thing at that point), I collected my wits (what little I had left), sat up and surveyed the landscape. My bent reading glasses were on the mantel of the fireplace.
The recliner was upside down and about 8 feet or so from where it originally was. My triceps, right thigh and both nipples were still twitching.
My face felt like it had been shot up with Novocain, and my bottom lip
weighed 88 lbs. I had no control over the drooling.
Apparently I pooped on myself, but was too numb to know for sure and my sense of smell was gone. I saw a faint smoke cloud above my head which I believe came from my hair. I'm still looking for my nuts and I'm offering a significant reward for their safe return!!
P.S. My wife loved the gift, and now regularly threatens me with it!
'If you think education is difficult, try being stupid.

*crossers fingers for no more updates*

Crosses fingers and toes for just one more update! :D

*wishes the season ended with crossed err uhmm eyes*

who's on facebook here that l dont have already ????

Rock you really need facebook! john posted some lovely photos!

he is there already ;)

Well I guess only the guys can see him. :(

You playing mafia wars? I'll add you as a friend and you can join my mafia. :)

Sounds good!

am not l had a look and it looks like it takes up too much time

lol
Not near as much as being here!!
I spen maybe 1 hour total a day on there. If that much.

it will pull you in john....mafia wars is evil! Beware!! lol

welll so far so good !
l have better things to do :)

Yes you do! AND that's wonderful! :)

:0)

Drop it Rock. You only see what you want to see. I took the time to read your links but you are not reading my posts it is obvious by your reply to john...which isn't john anyway. All I can suggest to you is stay in school. After all we all know the colleges are dominated by us freaky commie liberals maybe if you're there long enough something will sink in.

hey l AM me

Are you sure?

anyway ,hey rock, howz yer bum for luv bites??????

me bum is quite tight and will stay that way!

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Sorry blue, I have read every post and read your links. You put up very good arguments but you can not possibly say I am wrong and I can not say you are wrong our our beliefs. It is just that we see things differently and I feel that the current direction is wrong for this country.
I read the internet and watch ALL the news stations to form my opinion. It looks like my opinion is getting shared by more and more every day if you look at the polls and nobama's ratings.
Don't get upset that we don't see eye to eye and tell me that your liberal way of thinking might "Sink in" if I stay in school. That is just insulting to me. I woukld never say that to you or anybody else. Part of what makes this country great is our FREEDOMS to have our own opinions and expressions but it seems like some (not all) liberals I talk to get upset so fast and start throwing out names or derogatory statements. I never have and never will do that.
I am almost sorry we started this debate. I knew I would not change you and you would not change me.
So with that said I will drop it like you asked. I would hate to have our friendship hurt because we think differently.

well what the bill needs to do is regulate the insurance companies make them more of a none profit based instead of making billions or leting them get away with not covering things...i could see that as more a thing but just giving health care to everyone is bs i think...because a lot of people dont care to better themselves to get good jobs that give care...

most of the statistics for the people w/o care are already mooching wellfare or other shit anyway why should they get more...there is a lot of crap that could be fixed to make this country better and operate better...



does that sound ok?

YES YES YES you got it. It is NOT free health care. The reform bill regulates insurance companies and it makes insurance affordable for the middle class. It is not single payer it encourages the companies to compete and it stops them from being able to drop people for pre existing conditions.
It is the lobbyist and insurance companies that have put the lie out that its free HC and you'll be paying for it that is simply not true. They are purposely using terms they know will inflame the right so they can stop reform. It is in THEIR best interests because they made 650 billion in profit. Non working and really poor people can already get medicaid. Your tax dollar already pays for that.
This is not about welfare people it is about every day working class people that have lost their insurance because of job loss or many other reasons. Insurance companies can just stop paying.
They can even tell you how many kids to have. If you have to have a C section with your 1st child you cannot have another child unless you can pay CASH for the whole ordeal because the insurance companies are calling the next C section a pre existing condition. Its nuts.
I have a seizure disorder and break bones when I seize. I had good insurance but my husband was laid off like millions of others...When he got a new job the insurance company would not cover me AT ALL because of the pre existing condition clause. I can't simply go to the ER I have to have meds and a trip to the ER cost $5000 plus! Who can afford that every month? I don't qualify for medicaid I'm not poor enough so I am a typical example of the problem.

well i happen to have a friend that just had her second c section and it just cost 2500 is all for the operation woulda been cheaper the other way but it was 2500 afte ins woulda been like 10 or something...so that isnt entirely true...insurance still covered most of it...and then the have aflac that covered the rest pls we are elecricians and have a flex plan that we can pay for that too...

i just think these other probs should be fixed before we just start giving away helathcare to everyone fix what we have then see where we are at not just say everyone is gonna get it and then see where we are that will make it worse...an usually the people that dont have it are the sickest people cuz they dont do shit and are lazy...and dont care and go to the doc for any tiny thing...
i dunno i hate it and there is nothing i cna do about it it is what it is and thats that...

Hey mom, you know why anteaters never get sick???? Well because they are full of antibodies!!! LOL

why are there no drugs on the jungle cos the "parrotseatemall"
!

The healthcare reform being considered in Congress has two goals: make medicine more affordable, and make insurance more reliable. There will still be private drug companies and private insurance companies after all this reform is over.
With things like they are, drug companies can charge as high a price as they want for medicine, since they control the patents. 1000mg of Claritin will cost you $215 at Walgreens, but it only costs Schering-Plough, the company that owns the patent on Claritin, 71¢ to make that much. That's more than a 30,000% markup! And why do the drug companies need to make their products so expensive? To pay Dick Armey and other corporate lobbyists to drum up resistance to drug regulations. But with real healthcare reform, we can make generic drugs made from the same ingredients readily available to millions of people who currently can't afford them. That's not socialism, that's savings lives.

Seeeeee Spurtis I told you, My mom's talking politics enough for everyone! LOL

I am so sick of their straw man arguments comparing us to Canada or Europe when that has nothing to do with our own reform! The reform bill does not even introduce a single payer system like they have. It AVOIDS a single payer system!! It would encourage less cost across the entire board of insurance companies and make things cheaper for everyone. These guys just talk out their asses and have never even read the bill. Grr these people against health care can piss me off so bad they are selfish and prejudice against sick people as long as they are fine screw everyone else right? Oh but they are the 1st ones to talk of Christ and they'll be in church on Sunday pretending they are all good and holy. Tell me just how Christ like is it to say we don't want to help other people get health care because our taxes might go up a little? Grrrrrrr I was so mad yesterday I had to turn the tv off completely. IDIOTS! Did you see that stupid old woman literally crying saying my taxes will go up for socialist medicine and the dumb ass had to be 75 years old so she IS on MEDICARE which is paid for by our gov. Hello? *slaps head* I wish there was a pill for STUPID.

Since I am at work I can't get to the video where nobama in his own words, WANTS a single payer system. He said that is his plan.

I can't really debate much until I get back home :)

As far as people not getting treatment for cancer etc...that is the problem now with our current system!
Americans Face Denials For Coverage From Insurance Companies Every Day. Americans are already facing the denial of treatments from their private insurance companies, according to the Wall Street Journal. As Diane Archer, director of the Health Care Project at Institute for America's Future recently argued in the New York Times: "As any doctor will tell you, when a private health insurance plan delays or denies a physician-recommended service, it is deciding who gets care and what kind of care people get." [Wall Street Journal, 9/25/08; New York Times, 5/8/09]
Insurance Companies Hire Agencies To "Do Computerized Searches" Of A Person's Health Record. According to the Miami Herald, "to make sure that applicants are not lying, insurers hire a data-gathering service -- Medical Information Bureau, Milliman's Intelliscript or Ingenix Medpoint. Intelliscript and Medpoint do computerized searches of a person's drug use, gleaned from pharmacy benefits managers and other databases.
Insurers Use The Data To Deny Coverage And To Charge Higher Premiums. According to a Business Week report, "Two-thirds of all health insurers are using prescription data-not only to deny coverage to individuals and families but also to charge some customers higher premiums or exclude certain medical conditions from policies, according to agents and others in the industry." [Business Week, 7/23/08]
"Pre-Existing Condition Exclusions" Included In Coverage After An Individual Has Gone Without Health Insurance. According to the Kaiser Commission on Medicaid and the Uninsured: "If an individual is uninsured for 63 days or more, pre-existing condition exclusions can be imposed by their new health plan for most health conditions for which treatment, advice or diagnosis were received in the six months prior to enrolling in an employer-sponsored insurance plan. Insurers can typically refuse to cover medical care related to pre-existing conditions for up to one year." In the mean time YOU DIE.
I think you need to look at what is happening HERE in our country. You can't point to the problems of other countries while ignoring what is happening to families right here.

MYTH: The government option is the first step towards a single-payer system like Canada and Great Britain.
Neither of those systems is being used as a model to reform American health care. Our solution will be uniquely American and will ensure the continuation of the private health insurance industry, preserving American choice and entrepreneurship.
Sen. Max Baucus, who is spearheading health care reform from the helm of the Senate Finance Committee, said: "We are not Europe. We are not Canada...We need a uniquely American solution. It has to be a partnership of public and private players." [Washington Post, 5/11/09]
Sen. Baucus: The Reformed Health Care System "Will Be A Public/Private Hybrid." American Prospect published a quote of Senator Baucus saying: "We need health insurer reform to get rid of preexisting conditions and other ways insurers discriminate. That's part of our plan here, and the CEOs of many larger insurance companies are on board. They know this change is coming. They may lose the current model but they pick up on volume with 46 million people coming into the system.

Again, I will link the video of Nobama saying IN HIS OWN WORDS that he WANTS a single payer system. (Socalized medicine)
When these 46 million people are all the sudden able to get health care at my tax dollars expense, where are all the doctors and nurses etc. to handle the load??? They will not be there! That is where the long lines come from. The long waits come from. The rationed medicines. It has been proven in country after country that it does not work. The lies you believe are comming from a guy who PROMISED the unemployment would not go above 8% if his crazy spendulus package was passed. Now the unemployment is up to 9.5%!! This number should actually be higer because there are many thousands more that have had thier benifits end or have just given up on finding a job in this crap economy and nolonger report their unemployed status. That stimulus has done very little for this country and in reality only about 15-20% of the money has been dispersed.
He PROMISED he would not raise taxes on the middle class. Now he says that raising taxes is an option that needs to be taken into consideration!

First unemployment just went down report in today....and the cause of unemployment in the first place came from Bush outsourcing American jobs.
2nd the nursing schools and other medical fields are booming right now to accommodate the change which means more jobs. The schools are packed with students. My husband at 65 is in nursing school right now and he loves it.
3rd Americans' health care is already rationed, by the private health insurance industry.
Private insurance companies ration care to Americans every single day. They reject applications based on pre-existing conditions and family history. They rescind coverage after an illness has been diagnosed. Their premiums and deductibles are so high that millions of Americans are forced to delay care or declare bankruptcy due to high costs.
A Public Health Care Option Which Will "Spur Competition Within The Insurance Industry is the answer."
You just don't like Obama so you will attack anything he proposes. We are talking Health care reform not the healthcare of other countries or stimulus package and for the record Bush raised taxes.

HAH bush outsourcing your crazy...americans are to lazy to work shit jobs for one and we want everything for cheap...brings jobs back home and raise all prices of goods 25% to cover the costs...there prob solved...so think about it for companies...everyone wants to make money its that simple...how do you make money from a biz point hey we outsource this work pay 75% less wage and now bam right to the bottom line...now we can sell a litle cheaper to consumer and beat the other guys price...

there is always consequences and now we are feeling the pain....

While unemployment did go down it is only by .1% Like I said, many people are not even fileing anymore so the number is actually higher.
Bush did raise taxes which I was not too happy about and did voice my opinion but the deficit that was created by Bush in 8 years has been Quadrupled by Nobama in less than 6 months. It is only going to get worse as he trys to spend his way out which is impossible.

I've seen the video on youtube so don't waste my or your time. Its here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpAyan1fXCE
When reviewed Obama's public remarks and statements, don't quite match that video. In proper context, it was from 2003, Obama was a second-term state senator and beginning a campaign to win the Democratic nomination for U.S. Senate.
In other statements, Obama has spoken favorably of single-payer in concept, but always adding qualifiers.
* In February 2004, about a month before the primary election in the U.S. Senate race, the Associated Press reported the stance of all the candidates on universal health care. "Obama says he supports the idea of universal health care but does not think a single-payer government system is feasible. He says the government should be the health care provider of last resort for the uninsured." In a rundown of all the candidates' positions, the Associated Press summarized Obama's position as probably not at this stage,' a single-payer government system."
* In his book The Audacity of Hope , published in October 2006 when he was a U.S. senator, Obama described single-payer as the hope of the left, while those on the right wanted a market-based approach. "It's time we broke this impasse by acknowledging a few simple truths," Obama wrote, suggesting a system much like the one he supports today which combines both.
* In April 2007, a few months after he declared his candidacy for presidency, the Chicago Tribune reported, "Obama has pledged that, if elected, all Americans would have health-care coverage by the end of his first term. He has said he is reluctant to switch to a 'single-payer' national health insurance system because of the difficulty in making a quick transition from the employer-based private system."
* At his town halls as president, he routinely answers questions about single-payer by saying he would favor it if he were starting a system "from scratch." But he consistently adds that's not the goal of the current reform. "For us to transition completely from an employer-based system of private insurance to a single-payer system could be hugely disruptive, and my attitude has been that we should be able to find a way to create a uniquely American solution to this problem that controls costs but preserves the innovation that is introduced in part with a free-market system," Obama said in Annandale, Va., on July 1, 2009.
Our health care system is flawed and ignoring that fact will get us no where. Healthcare reform bill is a compromise IT IS NOT SINGLE PAYER. READ IT. The people spurring the fighting in this issue are the lobbyist that stand to lose the most because they own stock in the Insurance companies. You are just falling for their bullshit so they can make another 250 million in profit and you'll be screwed if something catastrophic happens to your family. Just research what is happening to people right HERE in your country. Hospitals are even having people mortgage their homes in order to pay for treatment. Mortgage or die. Its WRONG. You are siding with the rich. That is really sad.

The introduction of more competition in the health insurance market will not put private companies out of business - it will force them, in true free-market style, to meet the demands of consumers and to start providing quality coverage to all Americans.
Currently, There Is A Severe Lack Of Competition Among Insurance Providers
Only A Few Insurance Companies Dominate The Market, Leaving Americans With Limited Choices In Health Care. According to the American Medical Association, 94 percent of United States health care markets are considered highly concentrated, meaning that one company or a small group of companies control a great deal of the market. [American Medical Association, "Competition in Health Insurance," 2008 Update]
Rock you say the system is not broken leave it like it is...but you are wrong. Our system does not work it is extremely flawed. Just because you have not had a problem does not mean the problem does not exist! If anything happens to you or your wife or child AND you lose your coverage for any reason...work lay off, illness whatever...you will NOT be able to get insurance again. They can and WILL refuse to cover you due to the pre existing condition clause and you'll be in the same boat I am. UNINSURED.
The current reform bill is not single payer...it gives you competitive choices. My husband just went on Medicare...we were given a choice of companies Blue cross, Humana, United health etc. I then researched each one on line and picked the one that worked best for him. We pay 127.00 a month for coverage and it is great. That is what the reform bill wants to do for everyone. It does not want one single system it is your right to choose the company you want. Fox news is lying by saying the bill is single payer because they will do anything to stop Obama. They do not care about PEOPLE they care only about bringing down Obama and that is just wrong.